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3. The complement of freedom of speech is freedom to filter.

"It's not censorship to not want to listen to someone."

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4. Nation-statification of the Fediverse

"Where do communities live?"

"Communities live on mailing lists. These can have a lot of interfaces."

"Communities have different norms, and people behave differently in these communities."

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"The lost cyberpunk world of social games"

MUDs, MOOs, early graphical games from the 80s... These were more advanced social networking tools what the mainstream now.

"Why can't we have kids hosting ActivityPub services while they host Minecraft servers?"

"Well, that's the graphics 😜 They can create worlds together..."

Electric Communities Habitat

1997, a P2P social networking exprience... Rich interactions!

Sorry people, this is the funniest part and I cannot share it... You need to watch the video...

All right, on to OCaps...

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As Chris is talking on Object Capabilities, I remind you the upcoming OCAPPUB paper

https://gitlab.com/spritely/ocappub/

"We must not claim we can prevent what we cannot."

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Emergent behavior...

"No rule in the game of Risk tells you can stop talking to your friends"

"Pandemic is a game where you must cooperate to win the game... Most of my friends hug each other at the end of the game."

What kind of patterns arise from our programming?

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GNU philosophy. Yes, it's important! How we should treat each other, how we should think about the world.

"Agentarianism: maximinzing agency. For you, for me, for everyone. Be an agent, be an emergent consciousness in this universe."

Keep things fun. "We won't win on [providing good rules'] ground alone."

"Revolutions are run by the people who show up." (unknown author)

Have fun at ActivityPub Conf.

Welcome to the revolution.

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Q: Difference with P2P for moderation?

- not everyone want to run their own server

- not everyone wants to moderate

We can make tools that actually makes harder to bring abuse to other people (hint: OCapPub)

Community is on instance level

#antiabuse

Q&A

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Q: rewarding activity. Maximizing agency...

Rebooting WoT + ActivityPub: two communities that didn't talk to each other. We set up APConf next to RWoT so that it could happen, because they're complementary.

WRT payments, whoever wins is connected to social networks. We can't have these systems function independently.

Mention of @eliotberriot's #Rebtribute

Sorry I missed the next question.

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"We should be using content-addressed terminology."

"At the SocialWeb WG failed to extend the ActivityStreams vocabulary."

"I think content-addressed terminology is the best way to address [shared meaning in standards]"

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@framasky starts...

Hosting ActivityPub services, because they're federated, impose more responsibility than hosting a regular service.

About @Framasoft, non-profit with 35 members and 9 employees.

Produces @peertube and @mobilizon

@framasky is sysadmin at Framasoft and a Perl developer.

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You have an open instance? You have to moderate!

If it's a closed instance it's easier but you still need to moderate, since your users interact with other instances.

1. Create a moderation team.

There's no need to be tech-savvy! It's almost vital to have more than one moderator (bus factor, vacation, burnout, concertation on reports).

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2. Create a code of conduct

- your users will know what is allowed or not
- reference document to refer to
- easier for moderators

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3. Important points to note (for moderation)

- Spam/harassment easier on trust-by-default federation like Mastodon
- People may not read an entire thread before reacting
- Interaction may be done with different software bringing different limitations or constraints

Emojis are great to expand meaning of normally short messages that lack nuance.

Don't judge Mastodon toots too fast.

The consensus in this room is that surveillance capitalism is a poor solution for our situation.

Sometimes I see content from users and I think I would give money if that was easily done.

The main economic model seems to be crowdfunding but it has its problems. We could focus on considering free software as infrastructure and have society pay for it like for roads or education.

A capitalist's point of view. There are business models that we can use. At our company we refuse using Slack or that kind of service. We use IRC: developers love it, others, not so much.

We need enterprise services. Companies have money! Think about enterprise architectures.

Oops, I mangled the titles...

@how I hope you liveblog the whole conference I am sad I am missing it

@how damn thanks! there is now an insane amount of content on your feed I want to read. Will you turn this whole thing into a blog post of some kind?

@liaizon
That is a fair question, but I think it would be a waste of time since the videos and slides will be available shortly.

It may be better to simply continue the discussion in a long form somewhere. Although I'm tempted to try WriteFreely after @matt's presentation.

OTOH someone else might want to write a report from the conference afterwards. Let's see guess it goes today...

@how I personally don't see anything wrong with self-censorship or, as you quote, the freedom to filter. It's not violating anyone's right to speak as they wish, it's compliant with the NAP.

@how I hope that the discussion goes further than ultra-obvious statements like this one.